Comments on: Kissell Still Coming Up Empty on Energy http://www.carolinapoliticsonline.com/2008/09/25/kissell-still-coming-up-empty-on-energy/ Your political road for the Carolinas. Fri, 09 Jan 2009 12:31:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Sam http://www.carolinapoliticsonline.com/2008/09/25/kissell-still-coming-up-empty-on-energy/#comment-2965 Sam Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:29:45 +0000 http://www.carolinapoliticsonline.com/?p=3088#comment-2965 Kelly, currently there are oil rigs off the coast of California that were abandoned once the Federal ban was instituted by Bush 41. Those can be up and running in less than two years. Furthermore, while some estimates for building new rigs and beginning drilling off our coast in the Carolinas are around 8 years roughly, that is far less time than it will take to develop alternative fuel sources to be a practical substitute for oil. We are talking decades for that kind of development. Don't you wish Congress 10 years ago had pushed for more drilling rather than banning it? We wouldn't be having this discussion right now because there would be a far more plentiful supply of oil. I drove to 11 gas stations Saturday night to find one that had gas so I could fill up my car. We are experiencing a major fuel shortage in Charlotte because of Hurricane Ike and the damage it did to Houston refineries. One storm in one city should not be crippling millions of people like it is in Charlotte and Atlanta, but it is because we are dependent on that one area for our oil needs. If we were drilling off the Atlantic coast we wouldn't be in this situation, but we have no backup and this should be a wake up call to the Feds. Kelly, currently there are oil rigs off the coast of California that were abandoned once the Federal ban was instituted by Bush 41. Those can be up and running in less than two years.

Furthermore, while some estimates for building new rigs and beginning drilling off our coast in the Carolinas are around 8 years roughly, that is far less time than it will take to develop alternative fuel sources to be a practical substitute for oil. We are talking decades for that kind of development. Don’t you wish Congress 10 years ago had pushed for more drilling rather than banning it? We wouldn’t be having this discussion right now because there would be a far more plentiful supply of oil.

I drove to 11 gas stations Saturday night to find one that had gas so I could fill up my car. We are experiencing a major fuel shortage in Charlotte because of Hurricane Ike and the damage it did to Houston refineries. One storm in one city should not be crippling millions of people like it is in Charlotte and Atlanta, but it is because we are dependent on that one area for our oil needs. If we were drilling off the Atlantic coast we wouldn’t be in this situation, but we have no backup and this should be a wake up call to the Feds.

]]> By: kelly culpepper http://www.carolinapoliticsonline.com/2008/09/25/kissell-still-coming-up-empty-on-energy/#comment-2896 kelly culpepper Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:23:08 +0000 http://www.carolinapoliticsonline.com/?p=3088#comment-2896 Sam, Since there's going to be no additional oil due to new offshore drilling any time soon either, maybe you can explain to me where the relief is coming from for our less fortunate underclass? CNBC (the drill baby drill, go republicans! network), just did a show about the "oil crisis", where various experts stated that there are zero drilling rigs available for use. I don't happen to be a Larry Kissell devotee. But there's no way I'm voting for Robin Hayes. Mr Hayes and I agree on zilch. This is the American way, isn't it? Two choices, neither one of them worth a sh--. Sam, Since there’s going to be no additional oil due to new offshore drilling any time soon either, maybe you can explain to me where the relief is coming from for our less fortunate underclass? CNBC (the drill baby drill, go republicans! network), just did a show about the “oil crisis”, where various experts stated that there are zero drilling rigs available for use. I don’t happen to be a Larry Kissell devotee. But there’s no way I’m voting for Robin Hayes. Mr Hayes and I agree on zilch. This is the American way, isn’t it? Two choices, neither one of them worth a sh–.

]]> By: Sam http://www.carolinapoliticsonline.com/2008/09/25/kissell-still-coming-up-empty-on-energy/#comment-2883 Sam Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:07:17 +0000 http://www.carolinapoliticsonline.com/?p=3088#comment-2883 The problem with your position on this Kelly is that the middle and upper middle class yuppies driving their SUVs can cope with higher prices. The ones who get screwed are the lower income people who can't afford $5 a gallon gas, can't afford a hybrid car because they're expensive, and can't wait around 20 years waiting for one of your alternative energies to become reality. These are the people that Kissell is supposed to be going to Washington to want to represent. Ironic, don't you think? The problem with your position on this Kelly is that the middle and upper middle class yuppies driving their SUVs can cope with higher prices. The ones who get screwed are the lower income people who can’t afford $5 a gallon gas, can’t afford a hybrid car because they’re expensive, and can’t wait around 20 years waiting for one of your alternative energies to become reality. These are the people that Kissell is supposed to be going to Washington to want to represent. Ironic, don’t you think?

]]> By: kelly culpepper http://www.carolinapoliticsonline.com/2008/09/25/kissell-still-coming-up-empty-on-energy/#comment-2882 kelly culpepper Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:08:44 +0000 http://www.carolinapoliticsonline.com/?p=3088#comment-2882 Larry Kissell may be lean on specifics but I'm fine with his no offshore drilling and no refineries stance. Let the prices rise and lets get real alternatives to internal combustion transportation. Without high priced gasoline, you will never see any motivation to develop the technologies required for this. Let the people of North Carolina try conservation for a change. All I see around me on the highway are ridiculous gas sucking SUV's with one person driving and no passengers. If you are suffering because of high fuel prices and driving one of these vehicles then cry me a river. Take a haircut on your Suburban and get a Honda Civic. I don't have a problem with natural gas drilling off the NC coast but oil is different. If you think the Alaska spill was a disaster then you need to envision something similar affecting the delicate barrier island ecosystems of NC. Also, spare me the tired arguments about no refineries in 20 years or whatever the rhetoric is. How have existing refineries been modernized and made more efficient over the same time period? Has refining capacity actually declined over the same time period. I doubt it. Larry Kissell may be lean on specifics but I’m fine with his no offshore drilling and no refineries stance. Let the prices rise and lets get real alternatives to internal combustion transportation. Without high priced gasoline, you will never see any motivation to develop the technologies required for this. Let the people of North Carolina try conservation for a change. All I see around me on the highway are ridiculous gas sucking SUV’s with one person driving and no passengers. If you are suffering because of high fuel prices and driving one of these vehicles then cry me a river. Take a haircut on your Suburban and get a Honda Civic. I don’t have a problem with natural gas drilling off the NC coast but oil is different. If you think the Alaska spill was a disaster then you need to envision something similar affecting the delicate barrier island ecosystems of NC. Also, spare me the tired arguments about no refineries in 20 years or whatever the rhetoric is. How have existing refineries been modernized and made more efficient over the same time period? Has refining capacity actually declined over the same time period. I doubt it.

]]> By: cmitchz http://www.carolinapoliticsonline.com/2008/09/25/kissell-still-coming-up-empty-on-energy/#comment-2796 cmitchz Fri, 26 Sep 2008 00:32:50 +0000 http://www.carolinapoliticsonline.com/?p=3088#comment-2796 Larry Kissell is the anointed candidate of Daily Kos. In other words, he lives in a reality where it's more important not to hurt the little bunny rabbits while we wait forever for a new alternative to oil to come along. Larry Kissell is the anointed candidate of Daily Kos. In other words, he lives in a reality where it’s more important not to hurt the little bunny rabbits while we wait forever for a new alternative to oil to come along.

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